{"id":74267,"date":"2025-05-12T10:45:56","date_gmt":"2025-05-12T00:45:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.neds.com.au\/blog\/?p=74267"},"modified":"2026-07-03T10:29:55","modified_gmt":"2026-07-03T00:29:55","slug":"a-new-golden-age-of-key-forwards","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.neds.com.au\/blog\/2025\/05\/a-new-golden-age-of-key-forwards\/","title":{"rendered":"A New Golden Age of Key Forwards"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Watching Riley Thilthorpe physically define The Showdown on Saturday night, I thought back to <em>40 Year-Old-Virgin.<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Riley Thilthorpe was MASSIVE in last night&#39;s Showdown for <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Adelaide_FC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@Adelaide_FC<\/a>, equalling a career-high before half time to have a huge say on the final result \ud83d\udcaa<\/p>\n<p>The three biggest talking points out of <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/AFLPortCrows?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#AFLPortCrows<\/a> \u270d\ufe0f <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Q6br7GWky6\">https:\/\/t.co\/Q6br7GWky6<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Vlti06GLOS\">pic.twitter.com\/Vlti06GLOS<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Fox Footy (@FOXFOOTY) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FOXFOOTY\/status\/1921324370418446422?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 10, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Before its 2005 release, the biggest comedies invariably involved A listers in their primes \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2djcavCEajA&amp;ab_channel=TrailersPlaygroundHD\">\u00a0Adam Sandler or Ben Stiller <\/a>\u00a0\u2013 paired with legends like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=DzUc3Eqzzos\">Jack Nicholson or Robert De Niro<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The question at the time was simple: where is the next generation?<\/p>\n<p>It arrived with <em>The 40-Year-Old-Virgin<\/em><em>. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"KEVIN HART SCENE - The 40 Year Old Virgin\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/dtVIZBsHVu0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Steve Carell had just started on <em>The Office <\/em>so he was on a rocket ship, but that film had the following then relatively fresh faces involved in it: Kevin Hart, Seth Rogen, Paul Rudd, Elizabeth Banks, Kat Dennings, Jonah Hill, Mindy Kaling, and Stormy Daniels.<\/p>\n<p>The next 20 years of comedy stars\u2014and countless late-night monologues\u2014came from that film.<\/p>\n<p>This season is the key forward\u2019s <em>40-Year Old Virgin <\/em>moment.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not talking about the Logan Morris types\u2014those agile, key forwards who reflect where the game\u2019s headed &#8211; I\u2019m talking about the big men.<\/p>\n<p>The blokes that could have appeared next to Arnie in <em>Predator <\/em>and not looked out of place.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Josh Treacy absolutely launches it from outside 50 \ud83e\udd2f<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/AFLFreoCrows?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#AFLFreoCrows<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Jdddf27qI8\">pic.twitter.com\/Jdddf27qI8<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; AFL (@AFL) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AFL\/status\/1915715722505814395?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 25, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>The guys that get Jonathon Brown excited.<\/p>\n<p>Heading into the year, I feared they were dying out.<\/p>\n<p>As I saw it, we entered the year with two generations of key forwards.<\/p>\n<p>After them we had a group that seemed more emblematic of the end of something than the start.<\/p>\n<h5><strong>Generation One: The Elders (29+). <\/strong><\/h5>\n<p>This group took the torch from Buddy Franklin, Tom Hawkins, and Jack Riewoldt, who themselves followed Matthew Richardson, Nick Riewoldt, and Jono Brown.<\/p>\n<p>Now? Just two names: Jesse Hogan and Jeremy Cameron.<\/p>\n<h5><strong>Generation Two: In their prime (25-29)<\/strong><\/h5>\n<p>Charlie Curnow, Harry McKay, Nick Larkey, Ben King, Aaron Naughton, Jake Waterman, and Darcy Fogarty.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Jake Waterman, 2024 All Australian. I hereby retract all previous slander!\ud83e\udd2b <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/ilM0rvverR\">pic.twitter.com\/ilM0rvverR<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; BRZY (@outbreezyWC) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/outbreezyWC\/status\/1829110716697297065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 29, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Heading into the year, the only bona fide superstar at the level of Cameron or Hogan was Charlie Curnow, and he had two offseason surgeries.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">CHARLIE CURNOW, ARE YOU KIDDING ME.<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/AFLSaintsBlues?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#AFLSaintsBlues<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/SpudsGame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#SpudsGame<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/LH3mts0L2s\">pic.twitter.com\/LH3mts0L2s<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/wpCVPdCAwt\">https:\/\/t.co\/wpCVPdCAwt<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Carlton News &amp; Stats (@UptheBaggers) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/UptheBaggers\/status\/1920782806780613016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 9, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<h5><strong>Generation Three: Where are you? (Under 25)<\/strong><\/h5>\n<p>Coming into the year there was just one guy that you knew would be good \u2013 Josh Treacy.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Josh Treacy absolutely launches it from outside 50 \ud83e\udd2f<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/AFLFreoCrows?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#AFLFreoCrows<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Jdddf27qI8\">pic.twitter.com\/Jdddf27qI8<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; AFL (@AFL) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AFL\/status\/1915715722505814395?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 25, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Other than him, it was full of projects.<\/p>\n<p>The projects were the gangly but talented Sam Darcy, the oft-injured Riley Thilthorpe, as well as Aaron Cadman, Jacob van Rooyen, and Jed Walter among a few others.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Career-high 7 goals, one to go home and tell Dad about \ud83d\ude0f<\/p>\n<p>Forging his way into Dogs history, Sam Darcy. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/RQXeg8wSAt\">pic.twitter.com\/RQXeg8wSAt<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Western Bulldogs (@westernbulldogs) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/westernbulldogs\/status\/1825460742692483199?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 19, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>This year, Generations Two and Three have taken big steps.<\/p>\n<p>In Gen Two, King is leading the Coleman and has emerged as a genuine star.<\/p>\n<p>Fogarty has become one of the league\u2019s best link-up forwards\u2014a Tex Walker clone who kills you with his kicking either for goal or around the ground.<\/p>\n<p>The real excitement, though, is Gen Three.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=d24ZpzoZkQE&amp;ab_channel=HenryKrinkle\">Like Paul Bremer said when the U.S. captured Saddam Hussein, ladies and gentlemen we got [them].<\/a><\/p>\n<p>With Sam Darcy and Riley Thilthorpe, we have the guys to take key forward play into the next decade.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">&quot;I can&#39;t believe what he does to AFL defenders. He treats them like he&#39;s an U\/14 playing against the U\/12s.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Matthew Lloyd praises Riley Thilthorpe after another towering performance. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/9AFLSFS?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#9AFLSFS<\/a> | Watch on Nine &amp; 9Now \ud83d\udda5\ufe0f <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/poEQiJzVl7\">pic.twitter.com\/poEQiJzVl7<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Footy on Nine (@FootyonNine) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FootyonNine\/status\/1921358860683452554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 11, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Among all key forwards, they are the two highest rated in the AFL, both top-5 in score involvements and top-10 in goal per game average.<\/p>\n<p>These guys impact scoring in an uncommon way.<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re so good, they might force defences to change.<\/p>\n<p>Forward lines in general have gone the way of movie stars and generally gotten smaller. There\u2019s a lot more Chalamets than Glenn Powells around.<\/p>\n<p>St. Kilda, currently built around Mitchito Owens at 191cm, is the most extreme example and they\u2019re getting by.<\/p>\n<p>Defences, other than Fremantle, have pretty much followed suit so they don\u2019t get destroyed by chaotic entries and ground balls inside 50.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Jack Higgins is having a sensational season \ud83e\udd29<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/AFLSaintsFreo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#AFLSaintsFreo<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/g8PtyoFzIR\">pic.twitter.com\/g8PtyoFzIR<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; AFL (@AFL) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AFL\/status\/1918246055533043978?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 2, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Thilthorpe and Darcy can punish that.<\/p>\n<p>In The Showdown, Thilthorpe ragdolled defenders who were frankly too small and too weak for him time and again.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">&quot;I can&#39;t believe what he does to AFL defenders. He treats them like he&#39;s an U\/14 playing against the U\/12s.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Matthew Lloyd praises Riley Thilthorpe after another towering performance. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/9AFLSFS?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#9AFLSFS<\/a> | Watch on Nine &amp; 9Now \ud83d\udda5\ufe0f <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/poEQiJzVl7\">pic.twitter.com\/poEQiJzVl7<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Footy on Nine (@FootyonNine) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FootyonNine\/status\/1921358860683452554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 11, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=67dK5g5pOtY\">He was like Sonny beating up Carlo.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Adelaide in general was excellent at that on Saturday night. With Fogarty, Thilthorpe, and Walker there isn\u2019t a defence in footy that can match up.<\/p>\n<p>Every time they entered 50, they knew they would have a mismatch with whoever Lachie Jones was forced to play on.<\/p>\n<p>They were like the kid with the magnifying glass burning an ant. Jones was the ant.<\/p>\n<p>What happened in The Showdown will happen more often when there are forwards that can punish smaller defenders.<\/p>\n<p>Given how small defences have become over the last 5 years, the idea that Logan Morris is the new archetype feels misguided.<\/p>\n<p>If defences are getting smaller, go bigger and punish them.<\/p>\n<p>GWS and Hogan did it on Sunday arvo against a smaller Geelong defence.<\/p>\n<p>If I\u2019m right and that\u2019s how footy goes \u2013 good.<\/p>\n<p>The big key forward is what makes our game go.<\/p>\n<p>Footy is better with star key forwards.<\/p>\n<p>Crowds get louder and the energy lifts when he\u2019s around the ball.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Q1KZ4rzzUQA&amp;ab_channel=SydneySwans\">When you have one of \u201cthose guys\u201d, you feel like you\u2019re in every game as a fan because one guy that can get so hot that he wins a game on his own.<\/a><br \/>\nBut they\u2019re also a flawed species. So many of them struggle with their kicking.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Typical Richo\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XZhmrhpNLEc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>You see this brilliant juxtaposition of a chest-puffed-out alpha dog who has just ragdolled some poor bastard half his size to take a mark.<\/p>\n<p>Then that same guy\u2019s entire demeanour changes once he\u2019s done half of his job and he is just as nervous as everyone else for how his kick is going to go.<\/p>\n<p>As a fan, no player is easier to relate to than a key forward\u2014they&#8217;re so human.<\/p>\n<p>It will be good to have more of them.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Watching Riley Thilthorpe physically define The Showdown on Saturday night, I thought back to 40 Year-Old-Virgin. 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